Now what :/

[ahuff]

So Beefy's yeast is still not getting better - even after doing Vetericyn spray and a round of oral Keto. I bought some Malaseb shampoo last week and we're doing twice weekly baths... His thyroid test was normal and he's on Stella & Chewy's raw diet. I tried the Nzymes kit for almost a year and it did nothing to improve him except make his stench tolerable.

Suggestions of anything else I can try?

[pugtown]

Have you tried the vinegar bath from Dr Becker couple times a week instead of the Malaseb? And what about feeding him coconut oil and bathing him in coconut oil or at least rubbing it into his skin/coat? Coconut oil is also antifungal. Does the Nzymes kit contain probiotics as well? I know it's a plant based enzyme. I'm wondering if switching to an animal based enzyme and dog friendly probiotics will also help. The Mercola probiotics has 14 strains of beneficial organisms instead of the usual ones that humans take. And the Mercola enzymes has bovine enzymes along with plant based enzymes. Nzymes is soy/plant based. I see he's on a raw diet and it sounds like he's been on meds of some kind for quite some time whether ingested or bathed in something medicated. Those can still be toxic and strain the immune system. When my dog was ill a while back the vet gave him some kind of "immune booster" as well, a glandular product. Maybe something similar to this - Pet GO from www.mypetsfriend.com. No oatmeal baths. Oatmeal feeds yeast.

[6 Beautiful Pugs]

Poor Beefy and poor you! S&C's has a bit more carbs than Nature's Variety or Primal. You might see if that makes a difference. A different enzyme/probiotic blend may be in order...I'm so sorry this is not clearing up for Beefy. Maybe pancreatic enzymes would help. The vinegar wash mentioned above sure couldn't hurt.

Take care,
Lisa

[Wonka & Nilla]

Poor Beefy! I hope you can find a solution for him.
Our Nilla was a yeasty dog and it's hard to pin down what really helped the most but raw food, vinegar rinses and probiotics seemed to work for her. She hasn't had an infection in a long while and although her tummy isn't a pretty puppy pink, the center is finally "pinkish" and better than it's ever looked.

[shaynapug]

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[ahuff]

Haven't tried vinegar or coconut oil, does it matter what type of vinegar? I have some apple cider vinegar in my cupboard... I know there's different kinds of coconut oil as well, what would you recommend?

The Nzymes kit he did was the dog healthy skin program for yeast, which contained a probiotic. I was at the petstore the other day and the woman recommended the Nzymes kit probiotic and I almost screamed "I used that for almost a year and it didn't do anything!" I'm clearly getting frustrated by this whole mess

The medication he's been on is Ketoconazole (antifungal), prescribed by his vet - he's been on it for a few weeks and is almost out.

I may try switching him back to Nature's Variety, especially since they're selling it at PetCo and it's more easily available now.

thanks all for the advice!

[pugtown]

Yeast Infection in Dogs - YouTube She gives the recipe in this video. I don't have it written down anywhere. The coconut oil you can probably get at the health food store and online. Nutiva, Dr Bronners, Mercola has it as probably Amazon. Get certified organic virgin coconut oil. It is solid like shortening at room temperature so you will need to warm it up just a bit to rub it on him. Dr Becker's book recommends 1 teaspoon a day (as a supplement). It has lots of calories so take that into account. I make scrambled eggs in coconut oil and feed it to my dogs that way. Or you can warm it up and drizzle it over the kibble like you would salmon oil (but it smells alot better!)

I use the mercola pet products probs and enzymes and supergreen. Healthy Pet Products for Your Pet's Holistic Health and Wellness

[GotPugs]

It sounds like allergy testing would be my next step.

[pugtown]

Disinfecting Rinse: 1 gallon of water, 1 cup white vinegar, or 1 cup lemon juice, optional 20 drops peppermint oil. Pour over dog, avoid eyes/face, rub into skin and towel dry without rinsing. Can be used as needed several times a day.

Disinfecting Paw Soak: 1 gallon of water, 1 cup white vinegar, 1 cup peroxide. Soak paws and pat dry. Use as frequently as needed.
The peroxide can lighten the color of dark dogs.

You can still bath your dog with tea tree oil shampoo or other herbal shampoo and then rinse with the Disinfecting Rinse.

[cellophane]

Make sure you've been giving him the ketoconazole with a full meal, as it is better absorbed in the presence of (stomach) acid.
There are also topical products like shampoos with ketoconazole or other antifungals in it. As per the directions, leaving the lather on for 10 minutes before rinsing to get full effect can make a difference.

Zymox ear drops is a product that is enzymatic-based (not an antibiotic) and is EXCELLENT for yeast and bacterial ear infections. I know they have a shampoo with the same ingredients, but have not tried it. It may help in those intractable cases like yours.

Be careful with all the holistic products out there, as many don't have any scientific backing or basis and are just there to rip you off. Another product I have not tried for yeast, but have used in cases of immune system failures is a mushroom- based product, such as Tri-Forte mushroom drops. I have only read the literature on its use in cancer cases, though. Mushroom-based treatments could potentially be a pretty "strong" product, and not one that you would want to grab off the shelf from a health food store. A vet may be able to help you out with a specific immune booster for your case. It would be great if a little vinegar splash could solve the problem, but it sounds like it'll take much more intensive management than that :(