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    Poor Rudy. Monday she was walking really slow on our regular hike, Bill actually carried her. Then yesterday and today, she's been having these episodes where she stands really hunched over, just wants to sit down and she's shaking (from pain). But inbetween these episodes she seems like herself......

    The vet thinks it may be disc disease, but she's also lost 2 pounds since Sept, so we had bloodwork done as well (should have results tomorrow). Rudy is almost 10

    Anyone have experience with this?
    I've been trying to read as much as I can, but I'm still confused...obviously she should do as little as possible right now. My vet didn't say to keep her crated, is that something I should do? When/if she feels better can she resume normal activity? Rudy's been retired from agility for a couple of years and she really doesn't jump up and down from furniture, but she does go on a LOT of walks.....and quite honestly I can't imagine living with her if she can't get a lot of exercise daily, she can have quite the attitude with her sisters and I've noticed she gets far worse when she doesn't get out on a good hike daily.
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    sorry to hear this! I have no experience with this particularly, but I have used a chiropractor before on Junior and Louie with great results.

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    basil had some disc problems as well - at least that's what the vet figured it was. he would get these painful episodes where he was hunched over. we did not have to put him on crate rest, but we kept an eye on him so he was not doing anything too dangerous, like jumping up/down from couches. he was on anti-inflammatory meds and that seemed to help. everything settled down within a week. i'm still very careful with him, because i do not want it to happen again.

    good luck with rudy. poor thing.

    it was also suggested to us to use a chiropractor or dog physiotherapist. i feel bad because i never got around to it and then basil was fine, but i think that would be a good idea for sure.
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    Chyna will turn 9 in June. Over a year ago, she began to drop some poop here and there which continued to get worse. She does have control of her bladder. She wasn't able to jump up on the couch and was starting to walk a little funny. She also began dragging her feet just a little. I took her for an mri which showed degenerative disk disease. Surgery would not correct the problem but could possibly halt the progression. After much discussion, I felt that putting her through such a huge surgery now would not be in her best interest. So, I have been taking her for acupuncture which has really helped her. However, you may want to keep your pug from much activity for 4-6 weeks incase there is inflammation right now. You may also want to try some antiinflammatories as well.

    I was told that Chyna should not be going up and down stairs so we built a ramp for her to get into the yard. She isn't supposed to jump up and down from furniture which she sometimes jumps before I can lift her down, but we try to limit her. We do take her for very short walks when the weather is nice, but you can tell that she tires easily, and it shows in her back legs.

    For quite a while, she was walking around looking all sad. I really believe the acupuncture has helped her, and she is now walking around with her tail curled and actually looking happy. Chiropratic care might help as well, but you never want to do any manipulations as long as there is active swelling in the spine.

    Regular xrays didn't show us much other then a slight narrowing of the spine. I went ahead with the mri incase there was a tumor or something else that could possibly have been helped by surgery.
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    Thanks, I'll look into acupuncture. Rudy has been to a chiropractor & massage therapist, not recently though, I'll make sure she does.

    The vet did prescribe rimadyl, that stuff scares me though! Generally I give them homeopathic arnica whenever they're sore.

    Rudy just has never seemed like an "senior" dog, she didn't even start to settle down until she turned 7...it's hard to think of her as aging.
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    Do see if you can find the chiro and do some acupuncture too!

    I'm trying what Janelle uses on her dogs for inflammation instead of duramax. Have only had Solo and Kelev on it due to their arthritis. Both seem to be doing well!! It's natural! Duralactin

    Hope your Rudy is feelin much better soon!
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    Jesse:
    I have used Traumeel for joint/arthritic/disc pain and it has worked well. I get it at my local health food store. The only one who doesn't do well on it is Tank as he has a ton of plant allergies.

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    Poor little Rudy. I hope with treatment you can make her comfortable and still have a good level of activity. Might be time to get a stroller for her.
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    This is the site that Janelle sent me:

    http://www.countrysidepet.com/index....arch=GO&Page=1

    She said she had some trouble with having it shipped...but mine came within days.
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    If you don't give her any meds, you probably don't have to crate her. If, however, you give pain or anit-inflammatory drugs, make sure you keep her crated, as she could definitely do more damage without realizing it.

    Spines can be so tricky .........and irreversible if enough damage is done, so I would really err on the safe side.The sooner a definite diagnosis is confirmed, the better for a plan of recovery.

    We have 5 spinal injured pugs, all rescued after the fact. But we do have medical records on a few, and in every single case, the pugs have out-done the prognosis by a long way. So be realistic, but don't trust your vet completely, and give her the benefit of the doubt.

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