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    Default Right Side near Ear Hurts - vets dont have an answer! Help please!

    Hello all!
    I will try to make this quick and would appreciate any thoughts!

    Quick Background:

    I posted recently thinking that Beans had Syringomyelia (not very common in pugs but he showed almost all of the symptoms). I brought him to the neurologist where she believes his neuro exam is normal. She said she would have suggested the MRI if it wasn't pricey and there wasn't anesthesia involved. She said his ears are very stenotic (so much that she couldn't see deep down into the canal). He is diagnosed with Slight Dwarfism and before his surgery (in feb 2013) where they opened up his nasal passage, removed 1/2 cm of his soft palate, & laryngeal saccules, his whole body would be one stenotic nugget.

    I feed him Precise Adult Formula for moderately active dogs. I exercise him daily and clean out his nose wrinkle on a daily basis (its that dirty) and only clean the ears when they look like they need cleaning. I am concerned because Beans presents the following symptoms, and so far, no vets have had any answers... p.s these symptoms are slowly but progressively seeming to get worse.

    - shakes head constantly (on a bad day it can be once every 5-10 mins or so)
    - always stops while were walking to scratch near right ear (kinda hops on his left foot a few times before he starts to scratch)
    - WONT let us touch his right side. he's very clingy and will actually get off of my lap if I go near his right side
    - senior moments: sits and stares off for prolonged periods until I call him, which even then, takes a few times until he snaps out of it.
    - increasingly lethargic. wont be excited for things that usually entice him
    - gnaws on his back right knee and paw

    ... there may be more symptoms but these are the most concerning that I can think of right now. His ears seem to be pretty clean, so if it is his ears its something deep down. I would appreciate any feedback. especially if you have a puggy that might have gone through the same thing and what your vet said/ suggested.

    Thank you!!!

    xox Ashlee & Beans

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    Do you have a university veterinary hospital near you? I would highly suggest taking Beans there. They have the latest technology and resources and are current with knowledge of diseases and illnesses. There was a recent case here where no one knew what was going on with a pug and the university vet hospital diagnosed it right away.

    Welcome to Pug Village, btw. I'm sorry to hear Beans has this issue and will keep him in my prayers. Please stick around here and keep us posted on how he is doing. We care about pugs and their parents. Glad to have you here, Ashlee and Beans.

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    I forget his history, but has he been treated with antibiotics, has the vet tried irrigating his ear?? Foxtails are very nasty and can make their way into the strangest of places. You might have to think outside of the box with this one. Being he has a yeasty nose roll, he may have some allergies going on as well. Is his food grain free? Have you tried switching to a different protein source? These are all things to investigate. Hope You can find out what the problem is and it's a simple fix.
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    Yes, if you can afford it, I would take him to the specialist/University. It does sound like it may be neurological.

    If not, I would start with Zymox in the ears, a yeast reducing diet, neem oil on his itch/chew/lick areas and see how that goes.

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    Keeping you & Beans in my thoughts & prayers! I hope his problems can be figured out soon!
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    I'm having much of the same problems with my fred, He has been to the vet twice in the last two months for his sore, itchy ear, the vet had no idea what was wrong the first time around, so he treated him for allergies, ear infection and ear mites, the ear infection cleared up and he stopped itching, so I thought, he just had an ear infection or mites, well it came back full force and he is itching none stop at this point on all parts of his body, so we took him back and tested him for mites (which they should of just done the first time around) it came back negative and the vet found that he has a yeast infection and it was effecting his whole body!!!!!. He was treated with ear drops for another ten days and I'm told that he could have a food allergy. I just don't know at this point. his ear infection has cleared up and I have been cleaning his ears every other day but his one ear still seems a little more red than I would like it to be and he is still itching at night.

    It's hard looking at him and not being able to help him.

    The vet told me I should keep him on this food that he has never eaten any of the ingredients in for three months, the vet also told me dogs between the ages of 2-5 years can have sudden onset of allergies to pretty much anything, maybe your Beans has an allergy to something?
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    There is at least one prominent member on Pug Authority.com who is an expert in what you describe. I think her dog's name was Louie. And she had hiim treated at University of California, Davis.
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    Ashlee, I think I replied to you before, but please go get the MRI. See if you can pay for it in installments if possible. Beans symptoms sound more and more like syringomyelia. The longer you wait, the worse it's going to get. If it is syringomyelia, and the damage to the spinal column isn't too far along, surgery may help. But you need the MRI, sooner rather than later.
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    Default Reply & Update on Beans

    to fredsmom: the vet I have been seeing also suggested allergies. How long has your guy been on this new food? I'm curious to know because I am thinking of doing the same with Beans.

    to Cathy and Winston: I remember our discussion not too long ago. The only problem I am having with the MRI is the vet really doesn't think he has it (mainly because it is so rare in pugs) and strongly doesn't recommend it because he went under anesthesia twice in the past 1 1/2 yrs and did not do well the second time (he had to be rushed into surgery and I didn't get the x-rays I was hoping for). I'm really torn. Our conversation has definitely stuck with me which is why I'm trying to quickly eliminate any other possibilities first.

    UPDATE ON BEANS:

    He went to the vet today and she basically told us to go home. He doesn't have ear mites and no infection in his ear (so she says. my bf took Beans but didn't mention yet whether she actually tested him for mites or just took a look.) Basically NO ANSWERS WHAT-SO-EVER. again...

    I would think that if Beans had allergies that both of his ears would be affected, and not one more than the other. Although, my bf and I have been noticing that his left side has started to seem tender as well (won't let us touch or rub his ears). This is very frustrating!

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    If it's spreading to the left ear, I'd be looking for a better answer than what you've been given, and soon. It could be one of many things... the few that come to mind first are infection, mites, foreign body (ie foxtail), cellulitis from insect bite, or a tumor.
    Are you near a veterinary school? That would be a good place to take Bean.
    If you think it's a food allergy, I'd switch asap. Try something with limited ingredients, no grain, and a novel protein he hasn't had before (such as venison or duck).
    Will keep you and Beans in our prayers!
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