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    Hi guys I am just wondering if anyone has any ideas ......
    Will has had two episodes of fainting and two episodes of nausea / abdominal pain. Last time he had an anti sickness injection and an antibiotic and he was fine after that. This time it has been going on for a week and he's still not right. He's had anti sickness meds and pain killers (he's on buscopan).

    He's had x-rays so far which have shown nothing unusual. The only thing was that his spine is rather curved and I don't know whether this could be the start of a spinal condition and it's making him nauseous. ????

    The vets just rung and said he can have an appointment with a cardiologist on Monday but his symptoms do not sound like the heart is the problem so do I think we should wait for his heart scan and ecg? I swiftly said "no, i'd like him to have the appointment please!" So heart scan Monday.

    Next step is a referral to a 'internal medicine specialist' for further tests if cardio shows nothing.

    Would anyone suggest I go down this route before asking the vet to look at his soft palate? Or should I rule out his soft palate first? Obviously I don't want him under anaesthetic for no reason.

    He's better than he was but he licks his lips I'd say 60% of the time. When he gets excited and tries to play with toys, he stops and coughs (but almost a silent cough like he can't breathe for a second). But his breathing does not sound raspy at all at other times. He's very lethargic, sleeping a lot. He's eating and drinking just not AS excited about food as normal but he will eat. Oh, and he's keeping his tail down 70% of the time.

    Just wondered if anyone can see any obvious things I / we are missing??! I'll ask about kidney / liver function but apparently the bloods would have given some indication of any malfunction in this area. Maybe the start of a spinal curvature? Would an allergy make him feel sick / give him pain? A weak immune system? I'm letting him sleep as much as he wants as the vet says he needs to rest to recover.

    Absolutely any thoughts very welcome!
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    This may be way out in left field, but what about toxins? Do you walk him in areas where maybe they have used chemicals to spray on grass for weeds or bugs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarskullz View Post
    This may be way out in left field, but what about toxins? Do you walk him in areas where maybe they have used chemicals to spray on grass for weeds or bugs?
    Not knowingly but it is a possibility as he has his 'favourite field' but I try to vary his walks. Is there a definitive test for this?
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    I would think bloodwork would find it if they were testing specifically for toxins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sugarskullz View Post
    I would think bloodwork would find it if they were testing specifically for toxins.
    Okidoki, thank you. I will ask the normal vet when we go on Monday if the tests they did would have shown it or if there's more specialised blood work they could do to rule it out. I did ask about oxelate(??) poisoning as we did have a rhubarb plant in the garden but it was initially ruled out by the vet as apparently he wouldn't keep food down and also he would actually be vomiting rather than wretching and licking his lips - might bring it up again though!
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    I think you are currently on the right path. If these don't give you answers, then you can always do a check of his airway under sedation/anesthesia later.

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    thank you. He just scares me aswel because he staggers a bit when he first gets up which he never ever did before :(
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    Just been looking at pancreatitis in dogs....although Will is not actually vomiting, I'm wondering if it might be a possibility. I may be totally off the mark but my mind is going through alsorts! It's the major hunch that's pointing me towards it really. And the irregular breathing when he's asleep. But then maybe it's a definite no as the bloods did not indicate it. aaaaaahhhhh!!!lol.
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    you have a cough with Congestive heart failure.An enlarged heart can cause fainting spells.It does not hurt to rule out cardiac.
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    I'm wondering about an abdominal issue. If he's experiencing pain he could be curving his back as a reaction to it. Reflux could cause excessive licking, cough, reluctance to eat. Also, in humans it isn't unheard of for someone to faint due to stomach issues. The vagus nerve controls digestion, blood pressure and heart-rate. So one affects the others. I can't see it being much different in dogs. Might be worth a check....
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