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    Hi there,

    I have heard that getting two pugs from the same litter is not advisable. Apparently they are harder to train, get dependant on eachother and therefore don't care about you.

    I would be so grateful for any advice.

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    It can be just like that!!!!! You'll be going in too many directions at once to get them housebroken! They also become dependent on each other at times and if separated to go to the vet etc...get very upset!

    I recommend getting a male and a female. Waiting til the first one is housebroken...and then adding the second
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    Do a google search for littermate syndrome.

    I'll give a short selection of excerpts:
    Signs include fearfulness of unfamiliar people, dogs and other novel stimuli (neophobia); intense anxiety when separated, even briefly; and difficulty learning basic obedience skills. In some cases, the two dogs will fight incessantly
    Don’t Take Two Littermates | The Bark

    Placing two puppies in the same household always caused one puppy to become temperamentally unsuitable for work, even when both puppies started off as perfect candidates.
    https://paws4udogs.wordpress.com/201...mate-syndrome/


    Twenty-five years ago, I saw only one home per year that had acquired littermates. Now, I see 2 or 3 per month. “Littermate Syndrome” can be mild or severe. Mild cases are barely noticeable, while severe cases can lead to constant fighting, separation anxiety from each other, and even in some cases, aggression towards humans. Many of the cases I see involve dogs that cannot be separated even for the time it takes to take one for a walk. If one dog is sick and must stay overnight at the veterinarian’s, the stay-at-home dog will become destructive and vocal.
    Raising Siblings - this is a trainer I greatly respect

    The hallmark behavioral problem of littermate syndrome is fearfulness of people and often other dogs, which leads to training hurdles. These puppies seek comfort from each other, not you.

    Because aggression is so often fear-based, these pups may become aggressive
    Littermate Syndrome: Are 2 Puppies Better Than 1? No.

    After we brought the mixed-breed girls home at nine weeks, their behavior grew completely out of control. My husband and I could not get their attention for more than a second or two, as if we weren’t even in the same room. And then they started displaying alarming fearfulness of people and other dogs.
    https://blog.betternaturedogtraining...mate-syndrome/



    Most training professionals strongly recommend against adopting two pups at the same time. The biggest challenge of adopting puppy pairs is their tendency to bond very closely with each other, often to the exclusion of a meaningful relationship with their humans. They can become inseparable. Also, owners often underestimate the time commitment required to properly care for and train two puppies; as a result the pups often end up untrained and undersocialized.
    https://www.whole-dog-journal.com/is...e_16190-1.html - if you read only one thing, read this thing.


    Now, this does not mean adopting two dogs will automatically be a disaster. It just increases your risk for disaster, as does not socialising your dog, for example. There are certainly littermates that live their lives together and no issues. Sometimes, this is thanks to superhuman efforts from their people. Sometimes this is just luck. But just like you won't feed your dog the cheapest food because some dogs eat it all their lives and live to 18 years old, nor will you ignore vet care because some dogs just get better on their own - making this choice is making a choice that sets the groundwork for problems.

    It's, to my mind, a selfish choice - you want two adorable puppies, consequences to the dogs be damned. And so you get two. Perhaps that's too bluntly put, let me rephrase:
    The only one that might benefit from two pups at once is you.
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    you nailed it.....don't do it!

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    If you are an experienced person with dogs - maybe. If not, don't go there.

    I would add that few responsible breeders would allow a pair of littermates to go unless you can persuade them of your credentials, so if you are inexperienced ( you don't say, so I don't know) then if you do manage to get a pair of littermates you are probably not getting them from the best place to start with.


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    Thanks for the detailed response all.

    Getting two wasn't for selfish reasons but because we want a companion for our baby during work. We plan on getting a dog walker once a day too. However, seeing as work means we won't be with them all day to watch every sign of literate syndrome I think it's best one now one a little later.

    Thanks all

    Rachael

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    I don't think its selfish to want your dog to have companionship while you are away at work during the day. Dogs are social creatures. Littermates are risky though.

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