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    Hello~

    I am new to this site, so excuse me in advance, if I'm not doing this correctly. I posted this in a Diabetes thread on here, and thought maybe I should start a new one for Pancreatitis (?)

    If there is anyone out there that can direct me or give some advise, I'd appreciate it.

    Thanks so much~

    Here is my original post in Diabetes thread:
    I am new to the world of diabetes and must say...I find it daunting, to say the least. Mostly with my pug's diet. The insulin injections are fine, it's the feeding I'm struggling with the most.

    As I delve into this more & more, I find there is no definitive word about a dog's diet with diabetes. In my case, my pug, she is 13 yrs old, has just been diagnosed with diabetes and pancreatitis, which makes things even more complicated. Because of pancreatitis, her glucose levels are all over the place, right now. She has a FreeStyle Libre glucose reader & it's been difficult to get her regulated, due to this pancreatitis. She gets 2 insulin shots/day, which have been fine.

    So, this pancreatitis has just been an added hurdle and that's what we are dealing with at the moment. She seems to be fine, but I constantly have to take readings of her glucose, of course, until she is stabilized. This is a big reason I would like to get her on a good diet, to get her on a faster track to clearing up her pancreatitis so that we can get her glucose levels regulated.

    So, I am here to ask a few questions and hopefully get some insight and direction from some of you.

    Ok, my vet has put me on Hills Digestive Care Low Fat ID dry dog food and wet food. My dog will eat it, but, I have to put the chicken ( my own boiled chicken pcs.) on top of her food, in order for her to eat it. I generally give her 1/2 cup of dry with 1/2 can of wet food, then put the chicken on top of that. She will eat that, but she is losing wt. which is common in these cases, so I got to looking into alternative foods/diets. Also, these prescription foods are processed they are not the best foods I can be feeding her.

    She just had a check-up, scans, bloodwork etc., she has been on antibiotics for her pancreatitis for approx 3 weeks now. I understand the pancreatitis is a tough one and takes some time to repair. But, I began today, to look online for good natural cooking recipes so that I might start making her food, in order to...

    1) Help her gain weight
    2) Overall better health/diet in light of diabetes/pancreatitis
    3) Aiding in pancreatitis recovery

    In searching for the right recipes and videos from vets and pet owners alike, I found a lot of this overwhelming, from the standpoint of... the ratios of certain food/ingredients, what foods breakdown when cooked into sugar& how much sugar, figuring out sodium levels, what foods are not good for diabetic dogs. Lot's of questions about what recipes are good for diabetic dogs with pancreatitis. Ugh!

    There are just too many factors at play and I would appreciate any help to try to at least figure out some natural alternatives that I can be cooking for my dog.

    Also, can I feed my dog things like Turmeric, which is a great anti-inflammatory I don't know ~ There are so many great natural things I'd like to try but just don't know.

    I feel like I have spent so much $$ between ER VETS, scans, VET check-ups, medications, this mediocre dog food, which isn't that great, it's processed and EXPENSIVE!

    I might as well just spend the $$ on making her wholesome good food.

    Also, I checked out a couple sites that are Canine Nutritionists, but they want too much money will charge you to look at you pets medical record and correspond with your vet on a formulation to put a recipe together based on your pet's medical needs. Too expensive and they were not pleasant.

    There are other things I need to know about, like probiotics and the like. Although I don't want to overwhelm myself, I'd be happy just to get a good healthy diet in place first for my dog, then move on to other things.

    Just some insight and help on the way to proceed.

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    Just bumping this up in case someone can give advice.

    Sending best wishes for Bean to heal quickly and completely.
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    I can't help on the diabetes front.

    My Toddy had several bouts of pancreatitis following a ruptured gall bladder, when we nearly lost him. A bland, low fat diet fed in several small meals during the course of the day is the most helpful. We tried commercial food but he never much liked it, though the wet food went down better than the dry. It normally cleared up within a couple of weeks so I tended to major on poached white fish during those times and didn't overly worry on the balance of the diet, since that would right itself when back on normal food.

    Turmeric - yes, you can give it. I gave both my boys around 1/6 of a teaspoon on their supper. I have heard that ideally you need to give some sort of fat to aid absorption but I never did, though they did have turkey, salmon or goats milk yogurt topping on the kibble so maybe that was enough fat. Snifter's arthritis did seem to improve with the turmeric and Toddy never got it (we lost him before he was really old enough, sadly).


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    I saw your original post but I don't have any experience with diabetes or pancreatitis, but I think there are some people on here who have definitely dealt with pancreatitis....Sending along lots of hugs, as well as positive thoughts & prayers that your little girl can be helped......it is so very hard when they get older & start developiong problems, but we are here for you!
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    We have been given probiotics to use along with antibiotics when we've had pancreatitis. One was a powder, and we mixed it with a little plain yogurt and added to kibble as a topper.
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    Thank you so much for your kind response. I have gotten so much good info., already, and suck a kind welcome. Thank you~
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    Thank you so much for this information. So helpful. I'm sorry about Toddy :(

    Yes, I have been feeding Bean white fish, and it seems to help with the very mild Hills prescription food, they want her to stay on, as I incrementally add homemade food. She really loves the tilapia fish. Yep, she too does not care for the prescription foods, but they are low in fat, etc. it's a good place to start for Bean, and I will adding it to her normal diet, once this pancreatitis is over Ugh! It's a tough one.
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    Just thinking about Bean and wondering how she is doing? I hope the pancreatitis is improving each day.
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    How thoughtful of you. Thank you so much.

    She is doing ok. We had a specialists appt. on Wed. she had her new Freestyle Libre monitor put on her back, which just allows me to check her glucose, and needs replaced on her every 14 days. Ugh ! But, it does help. ( I'm sure you know how this works?) We have been getting readings now, which are on the higher side, but they are readings, which is better than it was, where it just read high all the time. This is a Huge improvement. So, I keep a log of these numbers and we adjust the insulin as the vet decides. We just keep doing this, until her numbers get to a place that they feel is good. We are getting there.

    I cannot do too much about her diet at this point. Although I have been able to add white fish to her diet ( Tilapia)& sometimes chicken, I just mix some in with her Prescription food and that seems to do the trick. She eats little meals throughout the day and she eats it all, which is great. I know how much I groused about that Hill's prescription, but it is a balance diet, and i need to keep her on this for now, because of the pancreatitis.

    March we get another scan and blood work done to check pancreatitis, etc. Although they

    They told me she just keeps losing a little wt.(kg) but that's normal, this has been the case since the beginning of all this. She will regain her muscle and weight once we get this diabetes and pancreatitis under control once and for all. It just take sooooooo much time. :(

    Overall she is good. She has lost most of her sight : ( However, she made comfortable, and she knows she is in good hands & loved so very much. This is what makes this entire thing bearable.


    I have to say she, is a warrior. These guys can go through so much and can still be loving and sweet. We are so lucky to be a part of their little lives.

    Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness.

    Sorry, I haven't been on here and should of posted an update, there has just been so much to do with her and I have gotten behind on other things
    TTFN~
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    Thank you for the update. Sounds like things are on the upswing for Bean and that it will just take time for her to recover. You are such a good Pug Mom for doing all you can for her. Pug hugs to you both and continued prayers.
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