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    Hey guys!

    Frankie is seven years old and heading in for stenotic nares/soft palate surgery in a week because he’s been struggling to get quality sleep for a while with heavy panting.

    In an unrelated issue, he has started hiding under my bed for over two months, something he’s never done in his life. While I can’t notice a limp while walking, he has started slightly lifting his back leg when standing. I definitely want to figure out what’s going on so he doesn’t need two separate surgeries. I have a good video of him doing it but can’t figure out how to post. Does anyone have any ideas?

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    Please check how his stream is when he eliminates himself. It sounds like he hurts going to go pee. That is an emergency !


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    Sounds like he needs a vet check. It's not normal to hide under the bed! He could be in pain!!! It could be caused by so many things! I'd try and get him checked before he has his surgery. He might just need medication and you want him in the best shape possible before the palate and nares surgery.

    As for trying not to have two surgeries....IF he does need surgery for whatever is bothering him...it probably wouldn't be done with the palate surgery as that's not an easy surgery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shaynapug View Post
    Sounds like he needs a vet check. It's not normal to hide under the bed! He could be in pain!!! It could be caused by so many things! I'd try and get him checked before he has his surgery. He might just need medication and you want him in the best shape possible before the palate and nares surgery.

    As for trying not to have two surgeries....IF he does need surgery for whatever is bothering him...it probably wouldn't be done with the palate surgery as that's not an easy surgery.

    Pls keep us posted!
    I think this should work as a way to see one of the videos I took last night. https://photos.app.goo.gl/SZsUf2sqMWZEQs2P9
    This video was taken just a few minutes later and shows that he doesn't always clearly favor one leg. https://photos.app.goo.gl/duBLKvfPkVXBFskJ6
    I tried to take a video of him walking normal to show that nothing really stands out but its incredibly difficult to make his walking look natural while I'm backing up with a treat. https://photos.app.goo.gl/5Z42DQtr3wLLWZbAA
    He went to the vet as a drop off appointment less than a month ago to confirm that the nares surgery would be a good idea. With COVID, I couldn't do much beyond give the vet tech that took him from my car as much info to pass on. They said that they didn't notice anything when moving his legs during his physical exam. His primary doctor, who will be doing this surgery, said that it's common for pugs to tweak their back. I'm not sure what to do beyond ask for full body x rays before surgery.

    To the previous commenter, he eliminates like normal. On our walks, he typically marks several times and uses a different leg to stand on each time. He also kicks out both of his back legs, as if he's burying something, which he has done for most of his life.

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    One of the tests for neurological issues is that you turn the foot so that the top of the foot touches the floor. The dog should fix it right away......turn it back up correctly. You can test that at home or ask the vet to do it when you take him in for surgery. While I didn't really see anything in the videos, the vet might...so see if you can send them to them. I send videos, messages, and emails to my vet's office!

    I am a big believer in chiropractors for humans and animals....he could also just need a simple adjustment. If you're gonna do this, I'd wait til after surgery and the healing. They flop them around when they're under!
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    Oh yes I misunderstood I thought he started lifting his leg. The videos are looking almost like spasm. I definitely would contact a specialist after sending the videos to you vet. The other surgery may have to wait until you figure out what is going on with this strange behavior.

    Also when did the panting at night start ? How soon after did he start hiding under the bed ? Could that be related ? Panting and hiding both can be symptoms of pain. Did they do an x-ray to determine the need for this surgery ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GordonBrunoPugMom View Post
    Oh yes I misunderstood I thought he started lifting his leg. The videos are looking almost like spasm. I definitely would contact a specialist after sending the videos to you vet. The other surgery may have to wait until you figure out what is going on with this strange behavior.

    Also when did the panting at night start ? How soon after did he start hiding under the bed ? Could that be related ? Panting and hiding both can be symptoms of pain. Did they do an x-ray to determine the need for this surgery ?

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    He has had problems breathing while sleeping for quite a while. He lifts his head up a lot and will start panting. A hypoplastic trachea was confirmed this spring when his chest was x-rayed for potential cancer that ended up being nothing. While surgery on the trachea isn't normally a good idea, the vet noted that his symptoms are likely coming from his soft palate more than his trachea while asleep and that even a 30% increase in breathing while taking medicine for the trachea is better than nothing. He's quieter than average when awake. They put him on Temaril P for a few weeks to see how he would react and he did much better over night. Tussigon alone hasn't shown as good of results.

    I don't remember the exact time the hiding started but believe it was sometime in early to mid October. He would randomly jump off the bed in the middle of the night and go under. Eventually, a barrier was built around the bed and he hasn't jumped off since. Living with him for seven years, I know something is definitely off about him right now and don't really feel the depression side that the vet is taking. I just think he's doing a pretty good job hiding whatever is going on right now because he hasn't cried or shown any noticeable limps but definitely changed in minor ways like when standing still and sometimes being more stubborn than usual to turn around on walks.

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    Well, he sure is cute! I wonder if it could be something with his hips or knees, but surely that was probably the first thing the vet checked......
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    He is such a handsome boy . I think you doing a great job. I also agree that most pugs won’t let you know if they hurt. They try to hide it. You know you boy best and I would be just like you worried and searching for answers . I say certainly go find 2nd opinion.


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    Frankie is a handsome boy.
    From watching the videos, I agree that it kind of looks like a muscle spasm. I wonder if he has a pinched nerve somewhere in his back or hip?
    I hope you can figure out the cause and that he is back to normal soon.
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