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    Unhappy The results are in - vet thinks epilepsy

    We got the tests back today, which show as normal. Vet thinks Fred's had epileptic fits. We are going to see if he has anymore now he is back on chicken instead of lamb. We have noticed a change in his poop - so I have my fingers crossed the meat did affect him.

    If anyone has any advice, we could use it. If he has another, the vet wants to start meds for epilepsy. I want to be as prepared as I can be - so far I'm not coping well.

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    I'm so sorry you have this worry. If it is epilepsy, he should live a normal and happy life once the medication has been tuned to his needs. Courage.
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    Thank you. It's not the diagnosis I wanted, I was hoping for an infection that could be treated and move on.

    We have our monthly pug meet on Sunday, and a vet is doing a talk. I will be asking his opinion and details of any specialists in the area that could help.

    If anyone has any ideas of meds that are good or bad, please speak up. I want to avoid any side effects or lasting effects.


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    One of my fathers Whippets was on phenobarbital his whole life because of epilepsy and lived a happy and healthy 15 yrs.
    I know it's the the answer you wanted but he can still be a happy pug for a good long time.
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    i'm sorry to hear this, but epilepsy can be treated and he should be able to live a normal life, once the seizures are under control. hugs to you.
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    Tyson was on phenobarbital for a while for what we thought were seizure like episodes (he has since been diagnosed with Addison's Disease and is off the phenobarbital).
    If you do start him on those meds, be prepared to see a change for the first couple weeks. It takes a while to get into his system and reach the correct levels. Lethargy, increased hunger and thirst-leading to increased urination, are just a couple side effects. The good news is that once you find the correct dose, the side effects should subside.
    I know it's not the ideal diagnosis, but it can be controlled and Freddy should lead a great life.
    Hugs to you, I know how scary the unknown is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyson&LuLu'sMom View Post
    Tyson was on phenobarbital for a while for what we thought were seizure like episodes (he has since been diagnosed with Addison's Disease and is off the phenobarbital).
    If you do start him on those meds, be prepared to see a change for the first couple weeks. It takes a while to get into his system and reach the correct levels. Lethargy, increased hunger and thirst-leading to increased urination, are just a couple side effects. The good news is that once you find the correct dose, the side effects should subside.
    I know it's not the ideal diagnosis, but it can be controlled and Freddy should lead a great life.
    Hugs to you, I know how scary the unknown is.
    Thanks for the tips. At the end of the day, I just want him to have a normal, happy life. Even if that means we become regular's at the vets. How did you determine Tyson had Addison's?


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    I'm possibly going too far - but PDE has been in the back on my mind. I've read the discriptions on here, obviously we have this:

    Seizures are the primary symptom of PDE, however it is vitally important to understand and remember that seizure activity in Pugs does not necessarily indicate PDE is the cause. Pugs may also suffer seizures from Epilepsy, exposure to toxic chemicals or gasses and for unknown and unexplained reasons.

    BUT, we have also seen this - for some time. We always thought he was trying to rub his eyes, and he does it most mornings on the duvet. He does have gloopy eyes, which I clean regularly and wipe with a tissue almost daily. Am I jumping to conclusions?

    Head pressing against objects such as walls or furniture is another symptom seen with PDE. This pressing activity normally occurs frequently and for a prolonged period of time. Pugs suffering from PDE may also exhibit signs of agitation and/or aggression whereby the Pug appears disturbed for no apparent reason or aggression that is uncharacteristic of our Pugs and comes on suddenly also for no apparent reason.



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    Quote Originally Posted by puggymumma View Post
    How did you determine Tyson had Addison's?
    Tyson actually went into an Addisonian Crisis, basically his body was shutting down. He had the shivers (his body temp. was 98 when he got to the vets), he wouldn't eat, he was very lethargic, couldn't hardly stand up.
    The way they diagnosis is called an ACTH test, it's the only way to confirm Addison's. We had countless blood workups done, a urinalysis, a few trips to the regular vet, and a consultation with a neurologist-who prescribed the phenobarbital. All the bloodwork came came back normal, nothing out of the ordinary, it was all very puzzling. We were at the point that we were going to have the MRI and CSF tap done, to see if there was an infection, a tumor, or if it was PDE, and then he went into this crisis.
    The "seizures" that he had been experiencing (which don't really sound like what you're experiencing with Freddy) I'm convinced were indeed muscle tremors, which can be one of the signs of Addison's. Here's a link to what he was experiencing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FviV2UwddY
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    Quote Originally Posted by puggymumma View Post
    I'm possibly going too far - but PDE has been in the back on my mind. I've read the discriptions on here, obviously we have this:

    Seizures are the primary symptom of PDE, however it is vitally important to understand and remember that seizure activity in Pugs does not necessarily indicate PDE is the cause. Pugs may also suffer seizures from Epilepsy, exposure to toxic chemicals or gasses and for unknown and unexplained reasons.

    BUT, we have also seen this - for some time. We always thought he was trying to rub his eyes, and he does it most mornings on the duvet. He does have gloopy eyes, which I clean regularly and wipe with a tissue almost daily. Am I jumping to conclusions?

    Head pressing against objects such as walls or furniture is another symptom seen with PDE. This pressing activity normally occurs frequently and for a prolonged period of time. Pugs suffering from PDE may also exhibit signs of agitation and/or aggression whereby the Pug appears disturbed for no apparent reason or aggression that is uncharacteristic of our Pugs and comes on suddenly also for no apparent reason.

    I don't want to confirm or deny your suspicions, but LuLu also rubs her eyes in the morning when she wakes up.
    From what I understand, the head pressing when it's PDE is because they're experiencing pain from the swelling in the brain.
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