I am sure this question has been asked before, but I was struggling to find answers for my particular situation.
I am moving from Canada to the UK, and I NEED to take my 9-year-old pug-boston terrier cross, Winston, with me. I am sure you all understand how important he is to me, he is my soul mate and I will not move without him. I am from the UK and am moving back home.
Winston is in excellent health, especially for his age, his face is not too flat, and he weighs a healthy 28 lbs. My vet has no concerns about moving with him. However, I am worried about the fact that he does have travel anxiety. He is basically fearless, except for when it comes to the car. He really hates being in the car, and works himself up. He won't even eat any food handed to him in the car, so I worry his anxiety would be way too high if I put him in the cargo hold of a plane, and that he may die from the stress of it.
The UK does not allow animals to fly into the country in the cabin of a plane, only as cargo. My goal is to have him in the cabin with me, and to fly with him into France first, then meet a friend there and take a ferry or the Chunnel to England.
My issue, however, is this: he is too tall, long, and heavy for all of the dog-in-cabin airline requirements, which appear top out at 22 lbs with carrier.
So, I would love to hear anyone's experiences with importing their pug or pug cross from North America to Europe. How did you do it? If you took them in the cabin with you, was your pug smaller than the required size/weight? If larger, how did you make this happen? Which airline did you use? If you used a pet relocation company, were they pug-specific, or did they help with any concerns over shipping a flat-nosed dog? If anyone has ANY knowledge on reloacting flat-nosed breeds, please give me any information you may have. I've done hours and hours of searching, and basically I just end up stressing myself out.
My dog is my life, and I need him to arrive safe and happy so we can live out the rest of our time together.
Thanks in advance, I appreciate all and any help. And again, sorry if this is just rehashing old threads, I've just struggled to find information for what people have done for their larger pugs.
I strongly suggest planning to take a SHIP. There are fewer accommodation limitations on the few ships that allow dogs.. he won't be able to be with you - but I believe you will be able to visit him a few hours a day. You will also want to look into medications to help him be calm and sleepy for the travel.
I don't have experience, except watching a "Faker" insist a dog was small and the stress she was under trying to make it happen.. she succeeded, but I am not sure it was worth it.
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I don't have any advice, but wanted to say hope all goes well. I can't imagine how stressing this is for you! Winston is such a cute handsome boy!!
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I took a Dalmatian with me to Germany in cargo. Years ago. I also had a Dachshund with car anxiety .
1st how much time do you have before you leave ?
You got all papers to bring a dog to UK I assume.
I cured the travel anxiety with tiny steps getting him used to the car and a plug in with ginger smell fragrance. It was something I was told to use. Plugs in the car and add drops of ginger defuses the fragrance for carsickness.
I had to get him used first to even approach the car . Treats and more treats until I got him finally in the car . Then we were just sitting in the car daily until I started the motor. Then we pulled out and back in the spot . Then we drove 1 Minute and back and slowly got further . Then we drove to fun places like parks etc. never did we take that car to vet etc we would use the other car . He associated that car with fun.
For flying it‘s not that easy. Go to airports now to get him used to the sound and noises and people etc. get him used to his kennel including to the kennel moving and bouncing. Get him used to drive in the kennel . Also teach your guy to drink from a water hamster bottle .
I was allowed to check on my dog underneath. They should be last on and first off. You talk to the crew when you get on and off .
It will be cold so something to keep him warm.
That is all I got .
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Last edited by GordonBrunoPugMom; 01-29-2019 at 05:52 PM.
I can imagine how stressful this must be! I don't have any advice to offer, but hopefully those who've done something similar will see this thread and be able to give you helpful information.
Winston is a cutie!
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Winston is a handsome boy. I’m not familiar with international travel with my pets but I have flown in cabin with my pets all over the United States. I can tell you my guys have never been weighed but they have looked at them and asked if they could move around in their carrier, our first pug Frank was very tall and weighed 24 lbs but we were able to get him in the XL Sherpa carrier (this is actually bigger than airlines allow but no one ever questioned us) we had to push down the sides to get the bag mostly under the seat and lost a lot of our foot space but he just layer down and slept. Our dachshund was never fond of the car but she had no problem flying, we did start flying with her when she was 3 months old so she started young, she would burrow under her blanket in the carrier and sleep. Some of the things we always do with our guys prior to every trip, is first bring the carrier out and just place it in the room, then we put one of their toys in it so they get used to getting in and out of it, sometimes we’ll put a special treat in there and let them chew on it while sitting in there, then we will take them on short rides with them in the carrier (flap opened), then a day or so later we will take another short trip and shut the flap. Assuming you still have some time prior to travel, you could do something similar with Winston, I would recommend you also sleep with a small blanket so he could have your scent with him to help him feel more comfortable. Good luck and safe travels.
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QM2 (Queen Mary 2 - Cunard) has dog kennels on board and frequently does transatlantic crossings. Takes a week. You'd have to get to New York. That would be your best option, though it will cost you. But it is a lovely cruise to do.
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Thanks everyone for the kind responses.
I am not moving until closer to the end of this year, September or October. I've looked into getting him to New York to take the QE2 to England, it may be easier to get him to NY on a plane from Alberta than all the way to Europe. I am TERRIFIED of boats and the water, but I'd do anything so he's comfortable, my comfort doesn't matter.
I haven't got all of his documents yet as the move is still a ways away, but I have all of the information for everything I'll need, and a vet who specializes in moving dogs internationally.
I'll work on getting him more comfortable with the car to start, and I'll get him a carrier ASAP so he can get used to that too, the Sherpas have been reccommended a lot, so I'll get him one of those. I know he'd just lay down in his carrier and wait until I let him out, he's a good boy, just anxious during travel. I'm going to look into calming treats, maybe dog-specific CBD supplements for anxiety too, see if they'll help.
Thanks again, this is a really nice community!
Great to hear you plan far ahead . I am confident what ever you choose your pup will be ready.
There are a few people here who do have experience with the CBC oil.
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At least if you're not moving him until September or October all this Brexit stuff might have settled enough to be able to sort out what regulations are then in force for bringing a dog into the UK - especially if your plan is to come via France. Pet travel is all a bit of a muddle at present with no one knowing for sure what the situation is going to be come the end of March if there is a "No Deal" exit from the EU.
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