High drive pug

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  • High Drive. Let's go walk. Or play. Or train. All the things!

    11 52.38%
  • Some features of high drive. Loves food, but also settles down calmly a lot.

    11 52.38%
  • Medium drive. Food is good, but if it's hard to get at, then it can stay there.

    0 0%
  • Low drive. Kinda like a cat, but cuddlier.

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    Default High drive pug

    Pugs, like all dogs, were bred for a purpose. They are companions, through and through - like collies herd or terriers hunt, these guys keep us company. Almost all pugs are good at this, because they were bred for this. They read our faces better than bullies, they respond to our emotions really well, they often become manipulative because they love food and can totally predict our behaviour better than even we can. Their intelligence and traits are geared to this too, something which makes hard core dog sport people often talk down to pugs. They sit still a lot because we humans don't typically move all that much, they look ridiculous because that's what we like (by ridiculous I mean: "looks like a human baby"... same thing, see? :P). They care about things, but not all that much - typically, they are not very driven dogs (except for food, most pugs are pretty crazy about food). They'll try for the ball, but if it's too far or too hard to reach... meh, let's nap in the sunbeam in stead.

    Sometimes, though, one comes along with the kinds of attributes that makes them a good sport dog. They are determined to get what they want, and they will do whatever it takes to get there. Since they're human orientated, this means they either are really easy to get to do stuff, because what they want most is you, or it means that they rely on us to do it for them (put a pug behind a fence with an opening to the other side a few feet away, and put food on the other side. Ten bucks says the pug stares at the human pointedly, alternated by staring at the food. Maybe with some whining. I'd bet a husky would just run to the gap and go get the food). Sometimes this thing that they want so badly is food, which is awesome for training. Sometimes they're even keen on toys, which again, is awesome for training. Alongside this, these pugs have a keen intelligence that allows them to figure out the route from where they are to what they want (which can be over the A-frame or via a sit-spin-down). The final part of the trifecta that makes what we would call a high drive dog, is energy. These good sport pugs are often busy. A lot of energy makes it easier to do sports simply because you can keep trying and keep doing things.

    These things also often make them difficult pets/amazing pets. They're determined enough, smart enough and busy enough to be a real handful (though still a small sized one, which honestly, really helps!). But with the right people, they are adventure pugs, best friends, sources of unending laughter. With the wrong people they are the dog running circles in the yard, eventually being that crazy dog in the pound. Or, in the case of people I know who have the most amazing smart, driven and busybusybusy dog, medicated into calmness because they could never give this dog up (they 'love' it too much) but they also could not be bothered to find the time that this dog needs (ok, they actually have crazy work hours, but still, they chose this dog, from working lines, and now they dope it - really, it's ok to want a calm, quiet house pet. That's perfect. No one will think less of you!)

    This has me wondering, how frequently do pugs have these three attributes that would make for a conventionally good sport dog?

    note: I'm not saying 'low drive' or 'medium drive' dogs are not good sport prospects, just that conventionally, high drive dogs are used for sports and I think they are certainly easier to teach.

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    Penny is either on or off. if she is off she will tilt head and whimper if food is not in her reach. On high look out she is a mini Tasmanian devil
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    I've got a variety, but Chainsaw and Wooster are insanely frantic for food, especially since they've been on a diet for their breathing: Chainsaw is so hysterical that it's hard for him to focus on anything else: he has to go through zoomies and jumps and frenzied circle dances for some time before he's able to even manage a "sit" for his dinner—and then we have to wait till his breathing is calmer. Mealtimes are fraught! They're also crazy to go out, but that too has to be limited because they can only handle about a half-block walk or a short skirmish before they start breathing heavily.

    Wooster is always interested in everything and everyone, to occasionally disastrous results, always willing to challenge one of the others (except Chainsaw) or muscle his way into a good situation, though not a bully. I think that when I finally get his palate trim surgery (hoping within the next year) and can give him a bit more exercise, he'll be much more focused, so training will go even better. He does NOT want to do a "down," but is so food motivated that he's finally crouching to grab the cheese (though his butt is still held high!).

    We deflect most of that energy with chewing: bully sticks and more recently, antlers: they prefer bullies but will gnaw on fresh antlers for a good hour or so; shorter as they get less "juicy." They also enjoy brief wrestling and humping games throughout the day.

    Dr. Chumley and Pooka are also classic pug food fanatics, ready and willing to break down a dog fence if there's something worth eating behind it—but less frantic than the youngsters because they aren't on such strict exercise and diet limitations. At 10 and 12, they enjoy a full walk around the block and some wrestling/chasing in the yard and park, but in moderation.
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    Wasabi is not food driven....at all! He has his favorite snacks BUT (for example) only like one kind/brand of bacon. Will turn away from it if he doesn't like it. Same for cheese...same for everything! LOL

    BUT.....will jump out of his bed for a walk!!! Has to play fetch for hours!!!! (okay, maybe not hours but it starts to feel that way!) He is not hyper...grabs a classic pug nap all the time....will sit calmly while I talk to someone on our walks...but is always game to go!

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    Interesting thread! #1 on Toby's list is food, he will do almost anything for food :) He will sit, lay down, do a high five with either paw, roll over, going so far as to roll over before he is in the down position, which is hilarious lol. He will even roll over if I ask Kelsey to sit for a treat, it's so funny watching to see what he will try to do to get a treat lol. #2 in sleeping/cuddling, he is never in a hurry to get out of bed in the morning, he knows mommy will feed him when we get up and he's not worried about it. If I don't feed him fast enough when I get up, he will grab the throw off the couch, tug on it and shake it ferociously. Occasionally he will grab the back of my clothing and pull me around until I feed him and speak words of jibberish...silly boy! #3 on the list is play. He is mostly a couch potato, but he and Kelsey have a secret language they speak to each other and a sudden game of chase will ensue. Toby is usually the chaser and Kelsey the chasee. Very funny to see a 20 lb. pug chase a full grown boxer with his teeth blazing. He does a good job staying on her heals, he can turn on a dime and make her leap in the air to avoid puggy teeth...it's all in fun. He will do this a couple times a day, but is content to snooze for most of the time.
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    I might classify Homer as high drive. I know he wants to do trick as told, but just sometime too scared.
    In our obedience class, we got a taste of agility, one of them is tunnel. He saw the food inside, but he is too scared to get it. takes us i think a good 5-10 mins. but he finally go inside and voila he goes in and out now. (we bought agility set, so we can practice at home)
    i still haven't teach him to rollover as i think even at play time he still prefer not to show belly.

    I taught him once on the trick "smell/sniff", just one time 5mins. then i completely forgotten about it
    until one day i decided to teach again, he still remember!!
    he's definitely would do anything for food, as long as he's comfortable with the task.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CountryPug View Post
    Interesting thread! #1 on Toby's list is food, he will do almost anything for food :) He will sit, lay down, do a high five with either paw, roll over, going so far as to roll over before he is in the down position, which is hilarious lol. He will even roll over if I ask Kelsey to sit for a treat, it's so funny watching to see what he will try to do to get a treat lol.
    When we go on playdates, he will push the other to get treat........
    he sit down before getting the treat. but in the process he's side bumping the other so he can have it all to himself. He side bump a really food driven (abit aggressive) oversized beagle a couple of times, I'm horrified needless to say.

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    I too have dogs in different positions on the spectrum... depending on the options! And they are terriers, but I keep them tired terriers, so they DO sometimes pick the snooze button!

    Thanks for the thought-provoking poll!
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    Well, yesterday the physio described Talos as having the brain of a labrador and the work ethic of a collie. :)

    At least, what this tells us is that there is a substantial minority of pugs that are busier and more intense than people expect.

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    Both of my boys are very food motivated, but otherwise very different. Snifter is laid back and quiet. He will do stuff for me, training-wise, but it is very much because I am asking him to and he wants to please. Toddy is our "perpetual puppy". He has calmed down a fair bit but is still a busy little boy with a very active brain. He is a lot cleverer than Snifter and really thinks about what he might do to earn his food rewards, rather than simply wait for a cue from me. Toddy has been quite the challenge; I think I would have been quite shocked had he been my first dog instead of Snifter. However I love him to distraction and wouldn't have him any other way.


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